Tim Flannery

and had some good projects there on different species.

And in 1996, I was fortunate enough to be invited on a field trip with a fellow by the name of Roger Martin, who had been in Papua New Guinea with Tim Flannery, purchased that book and read it cover to cover three or four times.

And for whatever reason, I just kept on focusing on the tenkele and the Waimang tree kangaroos, because they're very colourful, beautiful animals, and they have an extremely small distribution.

And the literature stated if something wasn't done soon, they were both going to become extinct.

So one of the things that you also mentioned, it sort of gave you your earliest exposure to clean energy.

You mentioned that you'd seen solar panels being used on temporary housing, and later you read Tim Flannery's The Weathermakers.

How did that experience change the way you thought about your career and what you wanted to do? And was there a particular moment when you thought, energy is where I want to spend the rest or the next part of my career?

Yes.

A good friend of mine is now at the UN in Bonn in Germany, and he gave me Tim Flannery's book, The Weathermakers.

And I can't remember if it was just before I went to Sri Lanka or around that time.

And I read that book and I knew nothing about climate change at that point.

Glide's Curse, which it's been a while from the get-to.

And I guess while we're on the theme of Collapse, I'm also slowly working through Future Eaters by Tim Flannery, which is a little bit older, and a few other kind of more uplifting things as well.

And I think on that day I went for a bike ride, about a total riding probably 20 kilometres

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I thought to have multiple voices discussing the medium was important, so I approached Philip Cox, the architect who had some heritage background, and he said yes, and his yes carried a lot of weight, because he was saying yes to a nobody.

I had no publishing background, no photographic background, no architectural background, but Yeah, so his yes meant that then Tim Flannery found it easier to say yes, as he discusses it from a geological kind of epic.

Shirley Fitzgerald, who was the city historian then, said yes, and James Broadbent, who was… Senior curator at Historic Houses Trust said yes.

And then a publisher said yes.