Till We Have Faces

Yeah.

But things like – Paralandra and Pilgrim's Progress and Till We Have Faces and Narnia.

And we'll read stuff like 1984 or Brave New World or Rocket Fuel or Cormac McCarthy, things like that for the secondary books.

Those are really, really good.

That is not the way to see it.

The mystery of, you know, till we have faces and all that is, you know, people can't see Mara's face.

Lilith can't see her own face.

We cannot see our own faces.

So he says that the 12 little ones are actually the jury.

witnessing the rebirth of Lilith as she is being confronted with all of her crimes and basically having them read aloud to her by her own voice, right? So we kind of have had that scene where Adam has read aloud the story of Lilith and it has kept her captive for a while.

But now we have this scene where she is going to be forced to see herself truly, which is exactly what we see at the end of Till We Have Faces, where she sees her face, right? And she is shocked and astounded because she realizes what she's been doing this whole time at the end of Till We Have Faces.

I'm not going to say who.

Yeah.

um first year of upper school was really like you're stepping into who you are as a person and like still trying to figure that out um and like especially reading omnibus was really fun for me because um i like reading all those old books and so like reading till we have faces um by c.s lewis yes and the odyssey was really fun for me because those are like big fantasy books i love fantasy so no that's perfect yeah excellent

what about you marty

see luke said he felt like he was really cool i kind of feel the opposite like i'm not a quiet person but seventh grade i was probably real shy and like i just didn't know where i was going like new to the halls and we actually had a new dean at the time so like i didn't know how the halls worked and neither did he and so we were kind of just all figuring it out together but like going to find your locker and actually keep track of your schedule now because you're moving classrooms like it was kind of a lot i remember and so i just kind of stuck with my little people in my hall and then I think kind of grew into it later, but

that's perfect.

Luke.

um on the bus for sure um when i was reading books like till we have faces and the odyssey which i was talking about earlier um house for my name like some of these books yeah i was just like this is boring i don't want to read this um even though i do enjoy learning But now I see that these books have developed my brain so much to think bigger.

And when I'm speaking with people and be like, oh yeah, Erasmus said this in Praise of Polly, and people are like, what are you even talking about? you know um and so i would definitely say last year in 11th grade shout out miss in i love you um that like yeah i'm just five about omnibus five is definitely my favorite omnibus um year um yeah and i think

And so I just began reading Lewis hand over fist.

Spent a little time with Over the Rhine, whose first album was called Till We Have Faces and was given an American first edition of Till We Have Faces by Linford.

Debtweiler and I read that on the plane back from LA so with them Phil and was completely mystified and confused and all the rest and Yeah, thanks David.

He put my um He put my my eBay in there.

I've currently got a set of first edition science fiction trilogy but um and More to come but it reading two-way of faces baffled me.

It was maddening.

It was mysterious it was like nothing I'd ever known about Lewis and then I I guess 20 years ago, I was asked to teach a couple of books for the C.S. Lewis Foundation in Connecticut at Williams College at the Summer Institute and taught Till We Have Faces and For Love Side by Side.

And that's when the book kind of popped wide open for me.

I just take lunch.

And I read Till We Have Faces for the first time in a long time.

I read it as a kid and didn't understand it because I was a kid and read it again and cried multiple times throughout.

So

... that now it's standing over him.

Which apparently I just relate everything to Lewis, but [laughs] it kinda reminds me of the end of, uh, Till We Have Faces, where, you know, she has this complaint and then finally she's brought forth before righteousness itself.

She is brought to account.

Um, and I don't know, it's just, it's a, it's a very, very powerful moment.

We had a whole episode on that, but I love stories about people coming to terms with their own villainy, which is what we get.

It's largely why I like, you know, Till We Have Faces.

It's one of my favorite books, which is all about Orwell doing this on the literary level, but where Cecil, you know, he is this dark knight who is...

He's essentially a villain in that the kinds of things he's sent out to do.

Mm-hmm

... uh, in Oxford, um, about, uh, about, uh, Till We Have Faces, but one of the things I wanna do after I finish my scholarly work on Till We Have Faces, Orwell is telling her own story in that book, and I've been fascinated recently by our stories.

And so, uh, one of the things that when I read Surprised By Joy, I thought, "How would I frame, how would I tell, what is the sh..." He calls it the shape of my early life.

Well, you have to have some distance, and frankly, a few years in order to stand back enough to see where my life, how my life has been shaped.

Mm-hmm

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in Till We Have Faces, the Narnia Chronicles.

Do we see that in Early Pro- Prose Joy, the synthesis of the imagination and reason?