Tia Levings

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, and if people are looking for resources, my friend Tia Levings is a phenomenal, phenomenal resource.

She grew up inside of high-control evangelicalism, and then was part of the, like, the Doug Wilson CREC tradwife, deep Christian fundamentalism, uh, quiver full type thing.

And she writes her harrowing story of escape, um, in A Well-Trained Wife, and then she just came out with-- she's released another book, and that one talks about, you know, helping people heal from it, helping people move forward.

Her second book, I Belong to Me, A Survivor's Guide to Recovery and Hope After Religious Trauma is available now.

Tia Levings, welcome back to The Weekend Show.

Thanks so much.

It's been about five months since you and I last had a conversation, and I want to get on to this kind of narcissistic relationship that Donald Trump has with the entire country in just a little while, because I think that's something that maybe you might be able to kind of shed some light on.

Well, with that, I'm grateful to you for your optimism and also for your expertise on this subject.

I wish you all the luck with your new book.

But for now, Tia Levings, thank you for joining The Weekend Show.

Thank you.