okay

because people who are living with HIV would like to get cured of HIV they want something they want an alternative to daily antiretroviral medication so a lot of people living with HIV when you talk to them and ask them what challenges do they have and what would they like to see they will tell you I wish there was something that could cure me of HIV so that I don't have to take medication all the time.

So in that sense, it's not that difficult.

But on the other hand, it is difficult because we keep telling people living with HIV that you must take antiretroviral medication for the rest of your life.

So here you are, you're coming and saying, actually, I am doing some kind of work, some research to see whether people can live without and retroviral medication, which is not an easy message to communicate.

So what we have done is to work with communities.

And this actually encompasses a lot of my work, is that I do a lot of work with the community, teaching them and having a dialogue with them so that there is mutual learning and respect for the kind of work that we do.

And so we asked ourselves,