Thomas Ramos

But we chatted about this last week, but when you've got Rubel Love passing to Jordie Barrett, passing to Damian McKenzie, with Will Jordan finishing, not many backlines have three world-class ball players that can stretch the pitch as, as wide as they could to be able to beat them.

So if we look at England or if you look at France, France will have Antonin Jalibert at ni- uh, at 10, and then you'll have Thomas Ramos.

S- so there's your pivot.

Scotland will have Finn Russell, Blair Kinghorn, so you've got two.

It's honestly, it might be, it's definitely one of the biggest in the world.

Like, Tomas Ramos uses it, and he's probably the best goal kicker going around at the moment.

I gotta say, fair play to Peter Breen because the Rugby Bricks brand is massive.

He's done-- He's pro- he's possibly done better, uh, with Rugby-

Have you got one?

Yeah, I just got a couple of the mid cut ones, and then one of the kids at school actually did a science fair project on which, uh, cut is the best to use.

Yeah, well Da- Damian Phillips uses it and Tomas Ramos.

Yeah, they're pretty good.

Furbank's got those qualities and he's able to do that.

You see across the world people like Thomas Ramos and those types of players who I'd say elite operators at 10.

And I think, obviously, I'm not saying he's quite as good as that, but I do think he's still right up there with...

If he drops in there, you go, OK, he can still do a job there.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Obviously, the biggest thing that's actually currently happened is Ramos leaving.

That's actually the biggest sort of thing we've seen, as in a lot of people sort of unhappy or surprised.

And a lot of us were surprised as well, because I always thought, I never thought he'd actually go to racing.

I went around and saw some people this summer as well, and it was pretty cool.

Yeah,

you're going to have to give Thomas Ramos a call.

Yeah, maybe.