It's a pretty galling figure, isn't it, for bus airing alone?

It is, Shane, and thank you for having me on.

Look, the NBRU have been calling for many years for a dedicated public transport force to tackle the scourge of antisocial behaviour.

But like some of those incidents, the Spittings, that's a really vile thing for a bus driver to have.

It's a common assault, breaches section 2, the non-fatal offence against the person alleged.

The bus companies don't recognise that as an assault.

The number of actual physical assaults, it's up in the stats, up to 13.

This clearly is not just a Dublin issue then?

And Dr. O'Connor worries this could create an environment that is a powder keg for gradual abuse.

You know, I'll take a little, uh, 25 milligrams of Anavar in training days, or whatever, 100 milligrams every five days of Sipe-Nada or something.

And then they're like, "You know what? Just gonna go up a little bit more." Y- you're, you're gonna do steroids.

You're gonna do one cycle.

You're gonna like it.

I don't care if you're a top guy or a regular accountant guy.

You're gonna wanna do more and more and more.

On top of that, he says he worries about the message that this will send to young people.

One doctor we spoke with, Thomas O'Connor, he's most skeptical of Enhanced confidence in consumers, that they'd actually take these drugs in moderation.

I don't care if you're a top guy, you're a regular accountant guy running McDonald's.

I don't care what you are.

You're gonna like it.

You're gonna wanna do more and more and more.

You're never gonna do one cycle.

Never.

Something else about Dr. O'Connor, he has a history of abusing steroids himself, and he's very open about it, meaning he would know.

Thomas, your drivers believe that both pedestrians, I assume to a lesser degree, but cyclists to a significant degree, are running huge risks and causing drivers problems by not wearing high vis.

Good morning, Anton.

Thanks for having me on.

Look, road safety is a very souring topic, and it behelds us all to do everything we can to mitigate the risk.

Yet, look, we're there.

The MERU represents over 4,000 workers, majority of our frontline workers in Boston and Lyle, quite a number of drivers.

And the lack of high visibility clouding is one of the issues we're going to be highlighting.

Has that made it much more challenging in recent years for bus drivers?