Tom Mueller
CEO of Impulse Space
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Jul 23, 2026
DIRTY DIALYSIS BUSINESS (ALL ABOUT THE $$$?) - with Dr. Tom Mueller
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Tom MuellerGUEST
Uh, that they were writing, um, settling, um, accusations of serious wrongdoing and going on their merry way.

Tom MuellerGUEST
Their stock price was still going up, and I was fascinated by the kind of the corporate culture of these, uh, of one pr- company in particular, Davita, which kind of styled, it seemed to style itself almost as a cult.

Tom MuellerGUEST
I mean, you had to cross a bridge to join, and they had these big jamborees where they'd do synchronized dancing and, uh, skits, funny skits where they'd play kill federal prosecutors, this sort of thing.

Tom MuellerGUEST
And, you know, I, I had formerly worked in investment banking, and I'm kind of interested in the corporate culture side of things.

Tom MuellerGUEST
So that's how I got introduced to dialysis and, and the amount of money sloshing around in the industry really caught my attention.

Tom MuellerGUEST
Then I talked with caregivers, the dialysis, uh, nurses and techs and nephrologists, of course.
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Ken BerryHOST
We should do this instead," what reward do they, uh, expect, uh, do they usually get from the corporate structure?
The Most Dangerous Part of America’s Healthcare System Isn’t What You Think with Tom Mueller
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Tom MuellerGUEST
And being a passive recipient of care, lie down, put your arm out, I'm gonna take your blood.

Tom MuellerGUEST
I've heard patients tell me this from (laughs) you know, in, in dialysis facilities.
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