Yeah

...

he was my, uh, PhD internal examiner, and I, you know, would sometimes go to him for, you know, advice or...

We didn't do very similar research, but I was in-interested.

I remember him saying...

I said, "Look, Peter, crazy question.

Why aren't there places where outside of universities where we can just focus on research?" 'Cause there's a lot going.

And how did you reassure them? Yeah, go ahead.