Third-Worldism
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Oct 27, 2026
Michael WatsonHOST
Hello, I'm Michael Watson, joined by Tiffany Gabbay, and this is Capital Research Center's Who Funds That podcast.
Michael WatsonHOST
Seemingly out of nowhere, the motivating energy on America's political left switched from traditional social democratic economics, think nationalized health care, or from the usual libertine sexual drives that have motivated left of center activists to the question of Palestinian nationalism as part of a broader anti-Westernism, an ideology often called Third Worldism.
Michael WatsonHOST
While much of the motivation is the usual swings of events and the eye of Sauron of everything leftism, there is real money behind this rising faction of the progressive movement.
Michael WatsonHOST
Joining us to discuss the mysterious donors behind the rise of the Third Worldist left is our colleague Shane Devine.
Shane DevineGUEST
Half of them at least had funded Mamdani's campaign through the New Yorkers for Lower Costs PAC.
Shane DevineGUEST
And the two big names, the two big funders, Javed and Hassan, as well as Ahmed, Tariq Ahmed, all worked for the same software company called Apple Oven, which we can get into, but...
Michael WatsonHOST
Now that we've introduced the players, what is, when we talk about third worldism, what are we talking about?
Shane DevineGUEST
So I think it was the French who came up with the red-green term.
Michael WatsonHOST
Hello, I'm Michael Watson, joined by Tiffany Gabay, and this is Capital Research Center's Who Funds That podcast.
Michael WatsonHOST
Seemingly out of nowhere, the motivating energy on America's political left switched from traditional social democratic economics, think nationalized health care, or from the usual libertine sexual drives that have motivated left of center activists to the question of Palestinian nationalism as part of a broader anti-Westernism, an ideology often called Third Worldism.
Michael WatsonHOST
While much of the motivation is the usual swings of events and the eye of Sauron of everything leftism, there is real money behind this rising faction of the progressive movement.
Michael WatsonHOST
Joining us to discuss the mysterious donors behind the rise of the Third Worldist left is our colleague Shane Devine.
Shane DevineGUEST
Half of them at least had funded Mamdani's campaign through the New Yorkers for Lower Costs PAC.
Shane DevineGUEST
And the two big names, the two big funders, Javed and Hassan, as well as Ahmed, Tariq Ahmed, all worked for the same software company called Apple Oven, which we can get into, but...
Michael WatsonHOST
Now that we've introduced the players, what is, when we talk about third worldism, what are we talking about?
Shane DevineGUEST
So I think it was the French who came up with the red-green term.
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They can travel and they prefer this freedom.
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featureless, internationalist style, which is sort of a mix between Swiss Brutalism and Swedish Ikea-ism and then Third Worldism, all mixed together.
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As the great English philosopher said, Sir Roger Scruton, and I've seen one of his wonderful quotes repeated endlessly this weekend because of the burning limo which is that um everybody knows that beautiful good things are very very difficult to build but are incredibly easy to destroy and the problem is that once they've gone quite often they don't come back so we have Exceptional, as you say, 1870s town hall.
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It is very much French Second Empire style.
Ben ShapiroHOST
That's what we're watching right now.
Ben ShapiroHOST
And that is the dream of radical Muslims and third worldists imported to France.
Ben ShapiroHOST
It's also the dream of the communists in France and throughout the West.
Ben ShapiroHOST
It's the dream of Jean-Paul Sartre, the nihilist philosopher who wrote an introduction to a book called The Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon.
Winston MarshallGUEST
I could talk at length about the two-tiered justice, about the police, but ultimately this woman talking like this is outrageous.
Dave RubinHOST
Let me co-sign on every word that you just said there, and the righteous indignation, and the chip on the shoulder, and all of it, and it's your country, and they're trying to take it away from you, and I mean that.
Dave RubinHOST
And, and Melissa, it's your adopted country now.
Dave RubinHOST
And what I thought was so perverse, as Winston pointed out, what she did there was such a strange sleight of hand.
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Dave RubinHOST
Mm-hmm.
Melissa ChenGUEST
Um, it is, you know...
Melissa ChenGUEST
I mean, you used the word Third Worldism earlier, and I think that is a very nice, um, bow.
Melissa ChenGUEST
What's happening is that the West has been hegemonic.
Tom SlaterHOST
And it does seem therefore that we see this picture in France, but we see it across the peace in Europe as well.
Tom SlaterHOST
The embrace, therefore, of a left that might previously have been interested in class politics, of a former sort of Third Worldism, of identity politics, and as part of that, it seems like a pretty Apologist stance in relation to not just this violence, but also Islamism to an extent.
Tom SlaterHOST
Is that roughly what we're talking about here?
Fraser MyersHOST
Yeah, I think that's absolutely right, and there are, you know, there are believed to be links with, you know, LFI members in the Muslim Brotherhood explicitly.
Lev PolyakovHOST
A comment from a good friend of the show, Gaulin Didier.
Lev PolyakovHOST
"These Third Worldists love to project their low-trust society philosophy onto high-trust societies like those in the West." That's a good point, but what I want, want to add to that particular point is that when it comes to compartmentalization, where you can have a lot of good people that do good things for the world, then you could also have bad people who are greedy, whatever, and they can be conspiratorial amongst themselves, meaning that you only know what you know.
Lev PolyakovHOST
You do not know what you do not know.
Lucas GageGUEST
Right, right.
Guy GoldsteinHOST
it.
Guy GoldsteinHOST
It was October 7th basically showed the West that the Islamist Third Worldist movement was able to mobilize in a way that could shift the politics of Western countries.
Guy GoldsteinHOST
And they have not taken their foot off the gas ever since.
Guy GoldsteinHOST
And every possible direction they can push, they have pushed and they have pushed brazenly and they have pushed openly and they say the things, the quiet parts out loud constantly.
TonyHOST
This is especially perverse given that the United States produced a globally historic revolution with progressive consequences, whereas Spanish colonialism in Latin America produced genocides of its own without a progressive, internationally transformative revolution to show for it.
TonyHOST
Therefore, the leftist oppressor versus oppressed nation logic that cherry-picks which countries can and cannot have nationalism tends to be driven more by an anti-Western Third Worldist slave morality than by internationalist principles, or even by the content of the nationalism in question.
TonyHOST
The oppressor versus oppressed framework misses this.
TonyHOST
This is where the left's inconsistency shows.
Steve TurleyHOST
And, um, l- very much for the reasons you're talking about.
Steve TurleyHOST
So the key ingredient in all of this is Third Worldism.
Steve TurleyHOST
And Third Worldists believe that Western civilization is the single greatest evil on the planet, and that the Third World uprising against the First World is, i- is a, is not just morally justified, it's morally obligatory, because the West is evil.
Steve TurleyHOST
And if you wanna be on the side of God, you've gotta fight evil.
Steve TurleyHOST
So that's why El-Sayed cannot give a dime to Israel.
Steve TurleyHOST
And the Palestinian people are symbols of the oppressed Third World, and so their rising up and standing up for them shows that you're on the side of, of a righteous cause that's over and against the great evil.
Steve TurleyHOST
The reason why it tends to s- associate with socialism communism is because both Third Worldism and communism, uh, Marxism, whatever, sees all the problems that people have in this oppressor-oppressed binary.
Steve TurleyHOST
So they, they both see a, um, a, a common oppressor that's completely de- decontextualized.
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