You, you decided to pick it up yourself.

yourself.Um, you'd thought, "You know what? There's ZBrush.

I'll give this a go.

I'll, I'll learn it in a year, uh, and do something incredible." What...

I have so many questions of this.

Yeah.

How do you find the time? [laughs] Yeah.

How do you as a judge begin to like piece them apart? Like, what are you looking for when you, you cast your eyes over and you're trying to find your golds, your silvers, your bronzes, your commended? Is there like-- I guess this is like a two-part question 'cause it's like, what are you looking for? And then like, if I'm a painter trying to really improve my standing at NPO, like what should I be thinking about?