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Theodore Porter

Theodore Porter

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Search complete. 5 mentions across 4 episodes found for "Theodore Porter".

Sep 15, 2026

C. Thi NguyenGUEST
7:47
And the more I've looked, especially at the historical record on this, the more I've been convinced this is not a story about user interface design.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
7:55
One of the books that really shook me up about this is Theodore Porter's Trust in Numbers.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
8:00
So he's a historian that studies quantification culture.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
8:03
He gives an argument and the argument he gives is about the difference between quantitative and qualitative forms of reasoning.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
29:45
We count easily together.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
29:47
So I've been saying that phrase a lot, but I think Theodore Porter gives one of the most refined accounts here.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
29:53
So what he says is that quantitative and qualitative information are good at different things.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
29:59
They're different tools.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
62:19
In the worst case, the world presents you with something, and it's, it's an institutional metric, and an institutional metric has certain design features.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
62:29
So a lot of my book, uh, draws on the work of, uh, Theodore Porter and Lorraine Daston, who are two historians, who I think really explain what's going on in institutional metrics.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
62:40
Porter's way of putting it is that metrics are designed to be comprehensible across contexts, that qualitative justification, justification in written language, is complex and open-ended and dynamic, but it requires a lot of shared background context, and so it doesn't travel well and it doesn't aggregate easily.
C. Thi NguyenGUEST
62:58
And so to make a institutional metric, we strip away all the nuance, we cut out all the sensitivity, and we cut out everything that requires high context, and we create a context-invariant nugget that can travel easily, like letter grades, right? Very little information, very easy to travel.
C.T. NguyenGUEST
14:01
So I went looking for a reason, and I found one.
C.T. NguyenGUEST
14:05
And I think one of my favorite explanations comes from a historian called Theodore Porter, who has this book called Trust in Numbers, in which he asks the question, why is it that politicians and bureaucrats reach compulsively for quantitative justification, even when they know that the metrics are bad, even when they know the rankings aren't tracking, which is really important.
C.T. NguyenGUEST
14:24
And he has this answer that I felt like was like the matrix-like unveiling of the modern world for my eyes.
C.T. NguyenGUEST
14:29
His answer is, he ended up saying like, look, there's two kinds of ways of knowing about the world.
Phil AgnewHOST
17:14
Are students less open-minded? Are they more creative? Are they better thinkers? Are they happier? We don't know.
Phil AgnewHOST
17:22
And we partly don't know because we've allowed metrics, in this case grades, to dominate our worldview.
C.T. NguyenGUEST
17:28
This is, I think, the core lesson from Theodore Porter that truly took my mind apart and the thing that terrifies me the most, which is that quantitative information is socially powerful precisely because it's been made to be portable, because it's been made to be easily comprehended.
C.T. NguyenGUEST
17:48
And we made it that way by removing nuance and expertise.

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