And not only I was, I'm just a friend, you know, you, you had, you know, you got two daughters and a wife and, and all other people that lives you touched that you help needed for you to be able to heal up so that you could keep being used by Christ.

Yeah, even after the suicidal thoughts passed away, you know, the anniversary of his death, because it's been 10 years now.

This year's been good, but that Christmas time.

I would become apathetic.

And one of the big hindering blocks for Christians is walking around with apathy and how apathy has a way of detouring us from doing what God wants us to do because we're so focused on ourselves and what we don't have.

I don't have my father no more.

And so shortly after that, I joined the Real Men 300.

Theo, what would you say to anybody that may be going