So, Theo, what kind of ideas are being mobilized to advocate for Alberta independence?

So, You know, a little bit of context over what we've been doing over the last year.

Rob briefly alluded to it, but ever since May 2025, after the federal election, we've been doing interviews with folks in the independence movement, going to independence rallies, meetings.

organized by Stay Free and the Alberta Prosperity Project, and doing public opinion polling.

And Lisa's absolutely right when she says that this is a far-right populist movement.

And that is the way I think it is best to understand this.

The kinds of ideas that animate the Alberta independence movement are a combination of the... grievances that have motivated Western alienation for some time, as well as the far-right issues of the day.

I'll even let you go a few seconds over.

In this, in the first map that was, series of maps that were drawn, the, the maps were decided along party lines to benefit one party, and that was the UCP.

As soon as you get political parties thinking about how to select the boundaries, the incentives for them to change the boundaries to their political advantage become huge.

And why wouldn't they, right? I mean, their goal as political parties is to win, and they're gonna take every tool available at their disposal in order to do so.

But w- as voters, we all have a really strong interest in preventing that from happening.

We look at what's happening south of the border as a cautionary tale.

The, you know, I, I like to say that Canadians look at American politics like they're watching an over-the-top gratuitous action movie, and you sort of have to suspend your disbelief.

You get the popcorn out, and all the while, you can do that because you feel safe that it's never gonna happen here.

And that's nothing new, but it's also not something that we should take lightly.