Thea Riofrancos

We can see what it means to kind of transform, um, rural, exurban, suburban places in the US, um, from whatever they were into fully industrialized backup house operations for those of us living in large cities.

Um, and I think in some ways, like the book is trying to think about some of the same questions that Thea, um, Riofrancos thinks about in her book, Extraction, another CCI person.

I'm just gonna keep shouting them out.

Um, but in her excellent book, Extraction, where she's kind of asking, asking us to ask ourselves, how much lithium do we actually need? Not how much do we want, not how much will-- can we, like, pull out of the earth and, you know, commodify and commercialize, but how much do we actually need, um, to live in a post-carbon or, you know, um, decarbonized world? Um, and I think, you know, in some ways this book is less precise than hers, but is asking similar questions about- The full spectrum of the energy transition.

Uh, so one, one, um, last broader question, and then I have a couple that kinda get into some of the projects which are, are really, um, evocative and, and, and really have a lot to say.

So Uh, we-- In your last answer, you already started to touch on this, but I, I also really appreciated how the book avoided a myopia by really just limiting itself to the US context, but also engages with examples and cases from a, a variety of international, um, locations and, and also different scales.

Uh, and in that, uh, especially just kind of, uh, I think you, you definitely draw on the work of, as you mentioned, uh, Thea Riofrancos and extraction.

A-and in, in her work, she, she, she really emphasizes the, the role of geopolitics in a just transition and kinda introduces, uh, concepts like the, the security-sustainability nexus, uh, green extractivism and, and sacrifice zones, like, in outlining how certain, uh, necessary types of extraction, like lithium mining or rare earth minerals, also implicate, um, global injustices.

We can see what it means to kind of transform, um, rural exurban, suburban places in the US, um, from whatever they were into fully industrialized backup house operations for those of us living in large cities.

Um, and I think in some ways, like, the book is trying to think about some of the same questions that Thea, um, Riofrancos thinks about in her book, Extraction, another CCI person.

I'm just gonna keep shouting them out.

Um, but in her excellent book, Extraction, where she's kind of asking, asking us to ask ourselves, how much lithium do we actually need? Not how much do we want, not how much will-- can we, like, pull out of the earth and, you know, commodify and commercialize, but how much do we actually need, um, to live in a post-carbon or, you know, um, decarbonized world? Um, and I think, you know, in some ways this book is less precise than hers, but is asking similar questions about- The full spectrum of the energy transition.

Uh, so one, one, um, last broader question, and then I have a couple that kinda get into some of the projects which are, are really, um, evocative and, and, and really have a lot to say.

So- Uh, we-- In your last answer, you already started to touch on this, but I, I also really appreciate how the book avoided a myopia by really just limiting itself to the US context, but also engages with examples and cases from a, a variety of international, um, locations and, and also different scales.

Uh, and in that, uh, especially just kind of, uh, I think you, you definitely draw on the work of, as you mentioned, uh, Thea Riofrancos and Extraction.

A-and in, in her work, she, she, she really emphasizes the, the role of geopolitics in a just transition and kinda introduces, uh, concepts like the, the security sustainability nexus, uh, green extractivism and, and sacrifice zones, like, in outlining how certain, uh, necessary types of extraction, like lithium mining or rare earth minerals, also implicate, um, global injustices.