The Wooden Sky

Um, and then Gavin Gardner, who produced the record, who's, who's become a friend of mine, he p- he mastered my last album, and he's, he's a great songwriter and, and producer and r- uh, player in his own right.

His band, The Wooden Sky, was a big band for me when I was in high school- And so he messed me out of the blue.

He's like, "Are you working on any new songs? I've got, like, this production thing that I wanna get going, and I'd love to work with you." And I sort of said, "Not really." And he said...

I was like, "I'm not really doing that stuff these days." And he said, "Well, I'm sure you've got, like, voice memos or something, so just, just send me what you have." And I did.