The True Cost

But I think it's like how can we judge people on one thing and then like I guess it's like, you know.

he is without sin cast his first stone like I just feel like there's so much stuff that is bad and I mean like the big thing I think you were saying that your brother was talking about is actually the effect on the environment of these things and a friend of mine she was a producer for a film called I just had to look up the name called The True Cost which was made in 2015 so actually how much has changed since then but it's worth watching and it really made me think and it showed about the factories and I think it was Bangladesh that clothes made in, it says made in Bangladesh, probably have not been made under fair conditions.

And it was about the, you know, the factories aren't run properly and then there's often fires.

And so it's the day, all this stuff.

I really do.

And that was one of the benefits of The True Cost, which is the movie that Andrew Morgan made...

And he always says that he used To Die For as the spine of that book.

And if it had been for him, I don't think I would ever have been able to talk about it again, if it hadn't been for him rather.

and somebody actually said to me on Friday that is still the best film about globalisation that they've ever seen, and that was somebody who watches a lot of films.

And I was like, wow, gosh, yes, I suppose it was.

So I think what did happen was... products like the true cost and lots of other things really really were able to articulate the true cost of globalization and i think that is a framing that a lot of people now understand and a lot of people consider so maybe they're not like they were going, oh, let's look at this checklist.

Is this ethical? Is this sustainable? Is this lower impact? But a lot of people, particularly young people, have a much wider framing about capitalism and globalisation.