The Open Mind

I'm your host, Alexander Heffner, and you're listening to the audio podcast of The Open Mind.

I'm Alexander Heffner, your host on The Open Mind.

I'm delighted to welcome our guest today, co-authors of the new book, Art Science Undisciplined, a playbook for transformative collaboration.

They are Janani Balasubramanian and Natalie Gosnell.

Thank you, Alexander.

Thank you.

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Continuing production of The Open Mind has been made possible by grants from the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, Angelson Family Foundation, Robert and Kate Niehaus, Robert S. Kaplan Foundation, Grateful American Foundation, Draper Foundation, and Lawrence B. Benenson.

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Alexander Heffner, the host of The Open Mind on PBS.

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I'm your host, Alexander Heffner, and you're listening to the audio podcast of The Open Mind.

I'm Alexander Heffner, your host on The Open Mind.

And there is a seldom a book that I am so looking forward to.

But in this case, our guest is the author of that forthcoming book, Hanna Kozlowska.

Thank you so much.

It was a pleasure.

Please visit the Open Mind website at 13.org slash open mind.

Download the podcast on Apple and Spotify and check us out on X, Instagram and Facebook.

I'm your host, Alexander Heffner, and you're listening to the audio podcast of The Open Mind.

I'm Alexander Heffner, your host on The Open Mind.

I'm delighted to welcome our guest today, Caroline Mehl.

She is the executive director and co-founder of the Constructive Dialogue Institute.

And I think it's important for us to, again, prepare the next generation to do better than what we're doing today.

and giving them the skills to engage in these types of deliberative conversations, have these honest conversations about really hard truths is really essential.

Caroline, I've admired your work for a long time, yours and Jonathan Haidt's who has appeared on The Open Mind with me as well.

I'm grateful for your time today and I urge all of our viewers to go to your website at the Constructive Dialogue Institute and learn about how their communities can benefit from your important programming.

I'm your host, Alexander Heffner, and you're listening to the audio podcast of The Open Mind.

Today we continue The Open Mind's ongoing special, Mayors of the World.

After traveling across three continents, a half dozen countries, and a diverse ideological spectrum, I was delighted to visit with my hometown New York City Mayor, Zohran Kwame Mamdani.

We explore the civic and cultural life of New York as well as the mayor's agenda.