The Lords of the New Church

Yeah.

that name but then it like gets picked up in the UK and I don't know death rock is such an odd genre because it can be like Lords of the New Church goth punk or it can be just like caustic anarcho really noisy usually poorly recorded you know rough sounding stuff and it's just it all kind of gets called death rock for some reason and

It is probably the most ambiguous of the spooky genres because anything that's called like gothic, it's pretty obvious why it's called gothic.

yeah it's like post-punk derivative or it does like a lot of like the classical definition of the word gothic and like has a very strong like symphonic orchestral vibe to it too that's your other wave I guess it's your dark wave and there's like a one there's another term too for like a similar ethereal new wave or something like that but yeah it's death rock is

Echo and the Bunnymen is fucking legit.

Lords of the New Church.

Dude, has music

gone away?

Stiv Bader's was a legendary frontman, Cheetah Chrome, legendary guitarist.

I also like the Stiv Bader's solo and Lords of the New Church stuff.

But my favorite associated act from Cleveland is Pear Ubu.

And we'll have to see whether they make the list.

On the album, the band moved into more complex song structures while still maintaining the punk sound of the debut.

This would be the last studio album for James, at least for now, as he would leave after this and later form the band The Lords of the New Church.

James would come back to The Damned in the late 80s and early 90s.

For The Damned, this was also the final release on Stiff Records.

Mm-hmm

... who was the Lords of the New Church's-

Mm

... tour manager at the same time as I was managing Hanoi Rocks, and the two acts would play together on festivals.

it was a, an awards ceremony for Brian James.

Yeah.

So he was there, so we played with The Lords of the New Church, me on drums instead of Nicky.

But Nicky came along, actually.

Yeah

... 'cause I've played Lords of the New Church as a-

Yeah

...

Yeah.

I, I never saw the Dead Boys.

I did see Lords of the New Church.

I interviewed Stiv, uh, got him to do the spit trick for me.