The Innocence Mission

And that song, New York, New York, has a place in history, actually, because the music video for it was filmed from Brooklyn Bridge Park with a perfect view of, of course, the the World Trade Center, and it was filmed literally about four or five days before the attacks on 9-11.

Also on that same exact date, the Innocence Mission released Small Planes.

This was a compilation of unreleased session work that they did.

It did not hit the charts.

And, um, I'm putting on some, some fall really evocative music, uh, that recalls like high school years.

Some R.E.M., Innocence Mission.

Just feels really, really good.

Um, man, the Cubs.

And I didn't play with any of the people that worked on that first record except the drummer for the next record.

The next record I wanted to collaborate with other people, so I brought in Danielle Lamoie, and India Davenport, and Young Chen Lamo, and Carl Berger, Loku Akanza, and the Innocence Mission.

I mean, Ophelia was all about bringing people to my house, because I had, at that point, built a recording studio in my garage, and collaborating with a variety of people.

And you were working more with string arrangements on that, too.