The Golden Notebook

But I think for grownups, it was really grim.

And if you read books, like if you read The Golden Notebook by Doris Lessing, I mean, she's not trying to present London as depressing, but by golly, her heroine's idea of a good evening out is going to hear a lecture of Stalin on linguistics.

It doesn't get any more depressing than that.

And Ted Hughes, the former Poet Laureate, described the 1950s as a tundra that we had to cross.

... had a lot of experience on the left, and she, sh-- there seems to be this-

The Golden Notebook.

Pardon me?

The Golden Notebook.

Yes.

It's brilliant.

The age we're living in compartmentalizes women.

I mean, Doris Lessing, of course, she wrote about this so eloquently in The Golden Notebook, almost like when a woman feels the need to compartmentalize herself into different colored notebooks until you realize you have to bring them together, and it's that holistic approach that makes sense if you want to move forward.

So I don't think I'm alone in this, in this feeling, and that's why it's important to talk about the journey.

Yeah.