The Fifth Estate

Greenspan never doubted what had happened inside that house.

He later told Kevin Donovan, "...I didn't need one minute of expertise to know this was a double homicide." Exactly one week after Detective Susan Gomes' announcement, on Friday, February 2nd, 2018, the CBC's investigative program The Fifth Estate aired an interview with a man named Kerry Winter.

If you've heard parts two and three, you know who he is.

Carrie is one of the four orphaned sons of Barry's uncle Lou, the cousins who spent years living on Barry's money and ten years suing him over the option agreement and the sale of their father's company.

He wasn't this loving, kind person giving money away, pillar of the Jewish community.

He cared about one thing, money, making lots of it, and not caring who he destroyed, who he stepped on, or who he fucked over, like me and my brothers.

Carey told the program that he had fantasized about killing Barry.

He said, He described hiding behind a car in the Apotex parking lot, waiting for his cousins to come out of the building.

Finally.

I'm Timothy Sawa, and from the CBC's Uncover and the Fifth Estate, this is The Mile Zero Murders.

Episode 7, Supervillains.

When we first started investigating this story in 2024, there were 11 murders in the previous three years.

If we're going to put a stop to it, people are going to come forward, right? And they've got to share what they know.

Jan knows it's not easy to come forward, especially with the wall of fear Tanner has built around Dawson Creek, along with Jessie Rae.

Remember back in Episode 3? We talked about the photo Jesse Ray posted after our Fifth Estate documentary.

The one with him masked and pointing a gun at the camera.

And with Alex Stratagos, Lynch believed her plan had been to, quote, ultimately finish him off.

What's strange is that Melissa herself, in a 2012 interview with CBC's The Fifth Estate, didn't deny the drugging.

She said, quote, I can't say that I didn't personally give him benzodiazepines.

If he had them in his system...

Well, I'm telling you, Ernst Zundel is back.

The fifth estate documentary about Zundel, the one that I worked on, airs just a few months after the Supreme Court ruling.

And you can hear how the wind has emboldened him and his supporters, like this German neo-Nazi leader who uses his publications.

In Germany, it is forbidden, it is banned to say that there was no gassing, no mass murdering of six million Jews.

Sam McNulty is our sound designer.

Carla Hilton is our executive producer.

Thank you to The Fifth Estate for archival audio and to Mandy Sham for additional voice work.

And a note that the audio you heard of Fred Leuchter at Auschwitz and of Ernst Zundel celebrating with his supporters in his bunker is from the website Odyssey.