The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

If it opened up with you waking up in a cart, that's Skyrim.

If it opened up with Patrick Stewart dying, that's Oblivion.

I cannot remember at this point.

Elder Scrolls and Mass Effect are the two that I started a game and then played for at least an hour, maybe an hour and a half, and then was like, this is boring.

Yeah, the people I met.

Even with Dead Oblivion.

Yeah.

And there is a Fallout New Vegas remake also, well, remaster coming also.

But it needs to be, they need to focus on the role play side of things.

And one of my biggest gripes with Bethesda recently has been the choice and consequence, which I feel they've lost ever since.

Oblivion, really.

Like, there was a tad bit of it in Skyrim, but not to the extent of...

It kind of... spreads it out doesn't feel a little rushed um because i think like the the main quest we like did like three missions per recording and you didn't really get to deep dive into some of the nuance and details of each of those little quests and so sometimes that's it's good to make sure you can dive into those and get all the little detail out of them plus you know just talk about your gameplay that you've been up to kind of a thing um

Yeah, I was actually kind of curious as to how you guys were going to handle Ron Hope, because I, even though, like, I knew he was Wes Johnson and everything, Shea Gorath from Oblivion and Skyrim and all that.

Like, I hated the character, but at the same time, like, when he goes through the whole speech, I was like, You know, he does have a point.

And I had Sam with me, and Sam did not want me to kill him.

Let's see.

You kill him in...

Oh, no, in Oblivion, you don't kill him.

You come across him...

So, like, we were, you know, young when this came out.

Like, math is hard, but, like, late teenagers or whatever, right? And, you know, I think now that I've, like, interviewed developers who made a bunch of, like, you know, Ultima Underworld and made Arx Fatalis and all these games that came out, this sort of, like, RPG games, like, I think the SX might have been the first, like, kind of RPG first person RPG I ever played like I remember Oblivion was a real moment for me of like oh it's like a game where you're first person but you don't have to like kill people all the time whereas like coming off this I was like obviously Half-Life in 98 Unreal Tournament and Quake 3 in 99 like lots there was so many shooters and there was you know strategic games like Splinter Cell maybe I don't know something there was games around this era that were doing other things but this level of um Yeah, the immersive sim nature of this was new to me.

And I do wonder if that's a big reason why it had such an imprint, because there was such a...

I still think it's fantastic.