The Dark Phoenix Saga

Yeah.

Are they going to do Phoenix Saga again? I

think we can do something else, can't we?

You have to, right? I mean, the cartoon did it.

went to Wikipedia just to see what.

the general consensus of the Dark Phoenix Saga is.

And Wikipedia says 129 to 138, but it's such a slow burn.

Like it starts here sort of with this, but it also starts with Jean thinking the X-Men are dead and with Jean, you know, resurrecting herself in Jamaica Bay.

And so when I was young, I heard Dark Phoenix Saga was so good.

And I just read those 10 issues and I was like, that's not that good.

I mean, it's fine.

Like it is a good soap opera feeling to me.

in days of future past isn't as prevalent of a timeline as say the age of apocalypse it is still a super important timeline it is a super important story in the history of the x-men in the history of a lot of characters such as kitty this was Kitty's first like major storyline.

You know, we know that Kitty was first introduced in Uncanny X-Men 129, kind of like the very beginning of the Dark Phoenix saga in an issue, a three kind of issue story that many people consider to be part of.

the dark Phoenix saga.

Uh, for me, it's like the opening act.

It's like the prelude to the dark Phoenix saga.

I don't really think that the dark Phoenix saga really starts kicking off until we get to like the dazzler issue.

Although was that also one 29? Um, If that's the case, then yeah, Kitty was there from the beginning.

But her story was a little bit different.

Right.

It's a Dark Phoenix saga.

Yeah,

it's Jean Grey.

Grey.

And we were talking about it with Gomer.

What came first, Carrie or the Phoenix Saga?

That's what I'm saying.

It is definitely a flashback.

Editor's note says it takes place, quote, shortly after the Dark Phoenix saga.

Now, Dark Phoenix was published from January through October of 1980, so if this is very late 80, early 81, I think it feels right.

So the plot is that Wolverine quits being an X-Man for a while because he's upset at the death of Jean Grey.

Yeah.

Parts of Chris Claremont's X-Men have to be evergreen, right? Like maybe not the entire run, but certainly chunks of it have dark Phoenix or whatever.

Like, so are you going to have it in both formats then? And is it also going to be in compact someday because it's so important that people need to read it? So like, we think so.

It's a little bit of a blurred line, I think, but hey, whatever.

Didn't the way the formats used to go, wasn't it single issues, softcover trays, and then hardcover, like way back, right? And now it's flipped, right? It's like single issues, hardcover, trade, which I guess makes sense because that's what they do for books, right? So yeah, it's interesting.

What's the order of...

Do these companies have enough funding to just do every format? Is Dark Phoenix going to sell in every format that you put it in the way Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow did? And how much money do they have and how much paper is out there and how many printing places are out there?

There's even there's a lot of like like an image or even independence that just offer hardback and paperback right away now together and whatever gets ordered.

Yeah.

And the Dark Phoenix saga, which is like the most epic story in like Marvel comics.

But the movie doesn't really touch much on the Dark Phoenix saga.

It just kind of explains, oh, Jean Grey's this and that's why.

And she's powerful.

They literally do the Jean Grey-

From the Phoenix Saga

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the Dark Phoenix Saga when they're on the moon.

Sort of the like iconic, they're the, they're the lovers.

They're holding each other and they're like, "Ah."