The Bugaboos

So everything from the Hummingbird Ridge to Crestone Needle.

Bugaboos.

Yeah, Bugaboos.

So that was sort of the first introduction.

What climb in the Kachatnas

Kind of how that shaped her rock climbing.

And then, you know, we covered some some like rat ascents that she's been up to in the Bugaboos and the Cascades.

And yeah, there's tons of good stories in this episode.

It was a ton of fun to sit down and chat all things multi-pitch climbing with her.

This is going to be a fun conversation.

Kind of picked up your name a little bit from John Alcorn.

And it looked like the two of you got up to a pretty serious adventure recently up in the Bugaboos.

Was the main objective that all along the watchtower?

And he filmed all that.

Then I did, you know, we did the movie White Powder World in Bugaboos.

And that was really a good film.

Oh, that's fantastic.

And Brooks Dodge was from, he was on the 56th U.S. Olympic team, and he used to bring a group of guys out from Boston, every year and he said to Hans one time, he said, you know Hans, my guys are getting a little older and they're having difficulty with this climbing.

Is there any possibility to get a helicopter? Well Hans had no idea that people were gonna spend that kind of money.

So anyway he did and that's where he started at the Bugaboos.

Wow.