Testaccio

Now, Enrico de Pettis, born in 1954, grows up in Rome.

And he's a Testaccio kid.

Not a Magliana kid.

Which matters because the gang is really a coalition of crews.

We've talked about this before.

There are the quays in, uh, I believe it's in Trus- not Trastevere, excuse me, uh, Testaccio area-

Mm-hmm

... where they would offload the olive oil when we talked-

Right

... about this Mount Testaccio.

And, and that was, well, later, but also a lot of this would've been originally offloaded in Ostia and then transferred onto smaller boats and then brought up the river.

Mm-hmm.

So it was really nice.

We met, Damiano and I met up with her and Martin, her husband, and we met at Testaccio Market, which is, like, one of the...

It's like an outdoor market in the suburb of Testaccio, which is, like, an old suburb in Rome, like very central.

And I- I'm sure if you haven't been there, you've driven by there, if you've been in Rome.

Because there's the big pyramid.

Sometimes it's kind of nice to go somewhere and then find out

... yeah, but because I was so busy talking to Barbara, like, about everything that I probably didn't even find out what it was, but that's okay as well.

Uh, so anyway, yeah, we met up and we had a beautiful lunch at Testaccio Market.

So I kind of created my own little, let's walk around my neighborhood.

For anyone who's been here, it's a neighborhood called Testaccio.

It's still got a very kind of... you know, local roots, you know, it's not too touristic.

And I would take them to meet Armando, the barista who served me, this 75-year-old guy who'd been working there since he was 15.