How'd you get to be the great Terry Donnelly?

Oh, I don't know about the great Terry Donnelly, but, um, the still, still working Terry Donnelly, which is, uh, always a miracle in, uh, especially in today's day and age.

Um, the, uh...

So the backstory, I actually began my career as a professional musician and, um, uh, toured, uh, nonstop literally for about seven years.

Um, got off the road and was looking to get married and settle down and have a family, and ended up in Toronto, uh, working for a, a consulting company for about 25 years doing HR, talent, M&A work, org design, executive coaching, uh, all of those things.

And, um, about halfway through that career, I became a partner in a venture capital firm.

Uh, so I was a limited partner, uh, and was responsible for the talent side of, of their VC.

You, you're gonna fail if you don't understand those things.