Mm

... where it's like I think, you know- As someone who went to school in New York City in undergrad- Mm-hmm ... right, and then came to Los Angeles, I was like, "What in the world is happening here?" So driving home this part about geography and where you are matters- Yeah ...

right? It was like- Yeah, yeah, yeah ...

what is happening here? Yes, girl.

Um- What is going...

Oh, white refrigerators, honey Literally.

[laughs] It's, yes, the ghetto.

Mm.

[laughs]

Um, and so, [laughs] you know, when Noah's Arc came out, it was, you know, a moment for me to go, "Wait a minute now.

Okay now, wait a minute.

They-" Feeling a little more seen ...

they just a group of friends.

It's, this is more my- They rollerblading and shit.

You know what I'm saying? [laughs] They, they know what they do.

Listen

How did you go about with all of these challenges that you that you just spoke about? How did you go about really finding your community out there?

You know, that's a great question and a great point.

I think when you talk about the supper club and creating a space for lesbians and particularly for women, we don't have as many organizations that target women.

We don't have as many public spaces for women to do that, especially for black lesbian women.

So one of my early mentors kind of did a similar thing.

She used to host these parties.

I think it was called Chocolate and Wine.

Like, you know, like, you