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I now? And what do I want for the rest of my life? Because I had been so focused on my mom during those years that I was just put on the back burner.

And so now it's like, I don't know how to focus on myself.

I mean, I was really thrown, even though she was 98 years old, so I knew it was going to happen at some point.

And so an opportunity came up for me And I hadn't traveled in years because I had been taking care of my mom and other things.

An opportunity came up for me to go to Rome, Italy with other entrepreneurs.

And I hesitated.

Right.

So why did you start doing this?

The travel coach or the coaching? Yeah.

Excuse me.

Well, I was, as you mentioned, a psychotherapist for about 28 years, and I just got tired of the business of therapy.

But I like doing the deeper work with people.

And so my own experience was I had been a caregiver for my mom for many, many years.

And after she died, I felt really lost and confused.

So you're saying basically you work with the women long before they get to the travel element.