Teresa C. Younger

Foundation, but also the very first president of the Ms.

Foundation to be an African American woman was Tere- is Teresa Younger, who's just finishing her fif- her 12-year term, and the new president of the Ms.

Foundation woman is also a Black woman, Tracy Sturdivant, both quite extraordinary people.

But I do recall that at the beginning of Teresa's stint, uh, and tenure when she said, "You know, I really want to focus our work on the people who are most in need, and they are disproportionately women of color and their children," and that has not really been a focus of the Ms.