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Oct 8, 2026

BSD Now

BSD Now

684: Nerds 2.0

Oct 8 · 5 Mentions

Top 20%
Ruben ShadeHOST
0:00
This week on BSD Now, a true Telnet BBS on, wait for it, a Casio calculator.
Ruben ShadeHOST
0:08
Some notes on software quality.
Ruben ShadeHOST
0:11
What the fuck happened to nerds? Uh, an ACPI layer has been added to VMD.
Ruben ShadeHOST
1:46
[laughs] Oh.
Ruben ShadeHOST
1:49
So starting off this week in the headlines, and speaking of things that make me smile, this was amazing.
Ruben ShadeHOST
1:55
This was, and I kid you not, a true Telnet BBS on a Casio calculator.
Ruben ShadeHOST
2:03
[lip smacks] Uh, so this is on ei3lh.eu, um, and this was written, um, not that long ago, August 14th.
Ruben ShadeHOST
2:12
So he says, "About eight weeks ago, I had virtually no interest in calculators.
speaker_4HOST
17:40
But how do you talk to it securely over a network? Like, if I rent a server in a data center halfway across the world, I can't just plug a keyboard into it.
speaker_5HOST
17:47
Historically, administrators solved this using a network protocol called Telnet.
speaker_4HOST
17:51
Yeah.
speaker_5HOST
17:51
It was fast, it was simple, and it allowed you to type commands remotely.
speaker_5HOST
17:58
It transmitted every piece of data in plain text.
speaker_4HOST
18:01
Mm.
speaker_4HOST
18:02
Meaning if I was typing my administrator password over Telnet, anyone sitting on a router between me and the server with packet sniffing software like Wireshark could just read my password as it floated by.
speaker_5HOST
18:14
Precisely.
Ron PerrisGUEST
33:32
And what that led to was the network security nightmares.
Ron PerrisGUEST
33:36
So the early 2000s was there was a bunch of stuff plugged into the internet that has a bunch of default services running, like Finger and Telnet and all these other weird Windows file sharing things.
Ron PerrisGUEST
33:48
They're all on the internet suddenly, and now we need to batten that down to hatches, add firewalls, close ports, get everybody to do system security correctly.
Ron PerrisGUEST
33:56
This reminds me of that, right? Like, when they invented Ethernet and they gave us all switches and routers, like, they didn't know that they would create this massive security problem, but it did.
James MesserHOST
23:44
Secure Shell is pretty much what you use to do any type of terminal communication across the network because it automatically encrypts everything.
James MesserHOST
23:52
You do not wanna be in a situation where you are using Telnet and sending everything across the network in the clear.
James MesserHOST
24:00
It's a great way for me to be able to capture packets, get your username, get your password, and now I have the keys to the kingdom.
James MesserHOST
24:08
SSH commonly operates over TCP port 22, so the port number you need to know for SSH is 22.
The Hedge

The Hedge

Hedge 321: Sockets

Oct 2 · 1 Mention

George MichaelsonGUEST
37:15
So around the time Windows 3 came out with networking, I think it was a later 3 variant, had the first Microsoft network code in here.
George MichaelsonGUEST
37:25
You could be talking on that using Telnet, using FTP.
George MichaelsonGUEST
37:28
You could do all these amazing things talking to what by that stage was mainly Unix systems because all these other operating systems had kind of withered on the vine a bit.
George MichaelsonGUEST
37:40
The world was exploding into a universe of people running pretty much the same design powered by Unix.
Ruben ShadeHOST
16:59
And syslogd has some various memory leak fixes.
Ruben ShadeHOST
17:03
And Telnet, if you're still one of the few people running that [laughs] for some reason, fixed telnet -l lowercase l telnetd, um, asking for authentication twice.
Ruben ShadeHOST
17:13
And yeah, bumping up some of the third party components to more recent versions.
Ruben ShadeHOST
17:17
So you've got Xorg, OpenSSL, SSH, uh, Unbound, uh, tzdata, and XKBCOMP has been updated to 1.5.0.
Jason TupnerHOST
18:04
Uh- I can understand if it's a, say you're making some sort of embedded device-
Ruben ShadeHOST
18:10
Yeah
Jason TupnerHOST
18:10
... and it has to do some internal local host connecting or something like that for Telnet deep, but certainly wouldn't want to be using that in production these days.
Ruben ShadeHOST
18:18
Yeah.
Michael KennedyHOST
30:20
The whole thing was created in 1993 when I was in college.
Michael KennedyHOST
30:23
So before that, you're like, well, we got Telnet.
Michael KennedyHOST
30:26
What are we going to do, folks?
Calvin Hendryx-ParkerHOST
30:27
Yep.
Michael KennedyHOST
30:31
Gopher, Archie.
Michael KennedyHOST
30:33
Yep.
Michael KennedyHOST
30:33
Telnet.
Michael KennedyHOST
30:34
Oh my gosh.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
20:24
It's normally not open.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
20:25
So you go into the configuration protocol and said, now I need to have, let's say, Telnet open, an example.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
20:33
and you think it's really cool, and next week I might do some other maintenance, so, you know, rather than close it down, I'm going to have it open.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
20:42
Over the time, there's a lot of small changes, and each add up to all the others, and that basically means that the protocol you and I, or the profile you and I was expecting, because when we set it up, have slowly been drifting.

9 MINS LATER

Mikael VingaardGUEST
30:10
So we actually, one of the guys, he actually built a scanner by himself and it's, to be fair and honest, it's not a scanner.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
30:19
It basically just do a really pure three-way NTP handshake.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
30:24
So the only thing we actually do is that we send, let's say, Telnet, we'd send a full three-way handshake on the Telnet port so we don't break stuff.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
30:36
That's a big difference because normally the problem with, in example, using Nmap, would be the way NMAF normally works.
speaker_1HOST
5:19
Yes.
speaker_1HOST
5:19
He used a vintage networking tool called Telnet to download a web page.
LernerHOST
5:23
Telnet.
LernerHOST
5:24
Wow.
LernerHOST
5:25
That is a blast from the past.
speaker_1HOST
5:59
Exactly.
LernerHOST
6:00
Okay, let's break that command down for anyone who isn't a network engineer.
LernerHOST
6:03
He's telling the Telnet program to connect to his personal website server.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
20:24
It's normally not open.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
20:25
So you go into the configuration protocol and said, now I need to have, let's say, Telnet open, an example.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
20:33
and you think it's really cool, and next week I might do some other maintenance, so, you know, rather than close it down, I'm going to have it open.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
20:42
Over the time, there's a lot of small changes, and each add up to all the others, and that basically means that the protocol you and I, or the profile you and I was expecting, because when we set it up, have slowly been drifting.

9 MINS LATER

Mikael VingaardGUEST
30:10
So we actually, one of the guys, he actually built a scanner by himself and it's, to be fair and honest, it's not a scanner.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
30:19
It basically just do a really pure three-way NTP handshake.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
30:24
So the only thing we actually do is that we send, let's say, Telnet, we'd send a full three-way handshake on the Telnet port so we don't break stuff.
Mikael VingaardGUEST
30:36
That's a big difference because normally the problem with, in example, using Nmap, would be the way NMAF normally works.

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