So I feel like, Ted, we have to start this podcast talking about Pat Murphy and the phenomenal job he's done since taking over as manager.

Phenomenal is just a word to start talking about, Pat Murphy.

I don't know what it is.

I don't know exactly how the players respond because I'm not in that dugout.

But there is some magical touch and one that he likes to say has nothing to do with.

But let's go back to that Luis Lara pep talk against the Cubs with the bases loaded when he said, are you ready? You're ready for this.

Are you ready? yeah one of these and i've talked to pat murphy about his spanish skills and he said they're not great no bueno he doesn't really speak spanish so he brought a spanish-speaking coach out with him to make sure the message was heard laura hits the winning uh single to drive in one or two runs whatever it was to beat the cubs and kind of bury the cubs for any division chances and murphy says i have nothing to do with it come on you had something to do with it He just wants to take the attention away from himself, put it on the players when it's good, and when it's bad, he wants to put it on him and shield these guys.

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Here is Ted Perry from the Fox station in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, giving his voice to depression publicly for the first time.

But I always vowed that if I was the guy who, and again, this is not a criticism of those people who have done that.

I'm going to make that very clear.

But I always said to myself, if I'm the guy who comes down with cancer or something or something, it's not going to be a public battle because that doesn't serve anyone.

I made the exception here because I think what you're doing serves people, and I think depression is a little bit different because there's no shame in talking about your cancer, perceived shame.

Let me be clear about that.

There's no perceived shame about talking about your battle with lupus or whatever it may be.

Another huge one is hope.