Technocracy movement
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Search complete. 12 mentions across 8 episodes found for "Technocracy movement".
Oct 17, 2026
Missouri's Data Center Revolt, $4 Gas & the AI Bubble - St. Louis Podcast Episode 166
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18:01Eric BrownHOST
Regulation is for people who don't understand the tech.
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18:05Eric BrownHOST
So technocracy is a real American movement, and it runs through who? The Musk family.
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18:10Eric BrownHOST
In the 1930s, Howard Scott's Technocracy Incorporated argued that engineers should run the economy instead of elected politicians and markets.
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18:19Eric BrownHOST
It was big enough during the Depression and Canada banned it in 1940 as subversive to the war effort.
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18:26Eric BrownHOST
Elon Musk's paternal grandfather, Joshua Haldeman, was involved with Technocracy, Inc. from 1936 to 1941.
Headlines: The Trouble is Not With Your Set
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40:55Mary DanielsenHOST
The irony is strong.
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40:57Mary DanielsenHOST
Musk's grandfather, Josh Haldeman, was the national leader of Technocracy, Inc. in Canada in the 1930s and 40s.
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41:06Mary DanielsenHOST
That's interesting.
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41:07Mary DanielsenHOST
He had no fortune to speak of and no technical expertise.
Turn In Your Gold? The Tokenization Push and Who Controls Your Assets
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13:21Logan HowseHOST
The irony is strong.
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13:22Logan HowseHOST
Musk grandfather, Josh Haldeman, was the national leader of Technocracy Inc. in Canada in the 1930s and '40s.
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13:29Logan HowseHOST
He had no fortune to speak of and no technical expertise.
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13:33Logan HowseHOST
Now his grandson is the pioneer of the modern technology that is capturing the world for technocracy, earning him the title, in my opinion, of arch-technocrat, and he has self-funded his rise to power.
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13:44Logan HowseHOST
There's no stopping him.
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13:46Logan HowseHOST
What is wrong with this picture? Does anyone get the idea that there is a demonic power behind him?" Now, when you really think about it, it is quite ironic that Elon Musk grandfather was the leader of Technocracy Inc.
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14:02Logan HowseHOST
in the 1930s and '40s when technology was, was nothing compared to what it is today.
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14:08Logan HowseHOST
So this guy back in the '30s was founding technocracy, this, this idea, not knowing that his grandson in, what, s- 80 years, would be the richest man on Earth pioneering the latest technology on Earth.
The Apostle Grok and Building New Rome
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38:58Caleb CollierHOST
But it seems that the entire Northwestern Hemisphere of this world is going down the road of US total control, and there's a motive behind it, and it goes all the way back to a man named Howard Scott, a visionary in the 1930s.
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39:19Caleb CollierHOST
Called it the Technocracy Movement.
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39:22Caleb CollierHOST
He argued that North America should be ro- reorganized as a single continental unit, the Technate, governed not by elected politicians, but by engineers using energy accounting rather than money to track and allocate resources.
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39:39Caleb CollierHOST
It didn't work, because the technology wasn't there.
Church & State - The Apostle Grok and Building New Rome
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42:29Caleb CollierHOST
But it seems that the entire Northwestern hemisphere of this world is going down the road of US total control, and there's a motive behind it, and it goes all the way back to a man named Howard Scott, a visionary in the 1930s.
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42:50Caleb CollierHOST
Called it the Technocracy Movement.
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42:53Caleb CollierHOST
He argued that North America should be re- reorganized as a single continental unit, the Technate, governed not by elected politicians, but by engineers using energy accounting rather than money to track and allocate resources.
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43:10Caleb CollierHOST
It didn't work because the technology wasn't there.
Fifty Firewalls: Protecting Unalienable Rights in the Age of AI | Courtenay Turner
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72:36Courtenay TurnerGUEST
They wanted to completely, uh, erect, uh, a new system.
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72:40Courtenay TurnerGUEST
They, it was a new economic system, right? Technocracy Inc.
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72:43Courtenay TurnerGUEST
was a reaction to, uh, the Great Depression, so they thought this was gonna be a new political system that would, uh, erode any kind of scarcity.
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72:52Courtenay TurnerGUEST
They felt scarcity was completely false and it was a false construct that was created by the market, the price system.
6 MINS LATER
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78:38Courtenay TurnerGUEST
Uh, Elon Musk is talking about his universal high income.
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78:41Courtenay TurnerGUEST
He's created his TerraFab, which is, like, a gigawatt of energy in this, uh, you know, massive data centers that he, he has his Colossus data center as well.
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78:51Courtenay TurnerGUEST
And I think that, uh, the, the universal high income is essentially the s- same kind of thing as, like, an energy credit, right? We can't forget that his, uh, grandfather, who was part of Technocracy Inc., actually, what was his number? Like 10451-01.
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79:08Courtenay TurnerGUEST
I think that was his number.
Alan Berman on Nazi Eugenics, Alien Myth, and Mind Wars
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35:45Alan BermanGUEST
Like if you just look at, again, the infrastructures that are being built within the, the...
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35:53Alan BermanGUEST
How much do you guys know about like Technocracy Inc. and the WEF's plan, uh, for, uh, like Eurasia and all of this stuff? Because if you just look at the wars-
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36:03VanceHOST
Everything
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36:03Alan BermanGUEST
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Jill Lepore on AI and democracy
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22:41Paul WellsHOST
What was the technocratic movement?
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22:43Jill LeporeGUEST
The technocratic movement, Technocracy Inc. was the leading organization of it, although there were others, was really a North American political movement.
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22:50Jill LeporeGUEST
It was as much Canadian as it was American.
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22:53Jill LeporeGUEST
And it's...
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25:45Jill LeporeGUEST
And Joshua Haldeman, the Canadian leader of the movement, remained a stalwart throughout the 1930s, even as the movement progressed.
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25:53Jill LeporeGUEST
just fell apart in the United States.
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25:55Jill LeporeGUEST
In 1940, Canada declared Technocracy Incorporated a subversive political organization that was banned.
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26:03Jill LeporeGUEST
Haldeman was actually arrested and briefly went to jail.