Technical pen

And, uh, and then, uh, well, you had your mapping pen and your Indian ink.

And then course the Rapidograph penc- pens and pencils come out, which were very nice because they got the different thickness, and you fill them with the ink, and you got an assortment of, uh...

So you didn't have to...

You had...

A lot of people used the lining pen for writing with, but I always used, uh, the, uh, as soon as I could use the Rapidographs, I used those.

And, uh, a fountain pen.

I had a fountain pen.