You know, there were no Westerners up there on the island.

Yeah, it's about an hour out of Sapporo.

Sapporo's like, you know, the big city there.

But yeah, it was a smaller city, Tamakamai, you know, for Japan standards.

Yeah, we were the only, like, when we'd walk around, my wife, you know, blonde hair, I mean, they thought she was like a movie star, right? There was a donut shop, Mr.

Donut, when my in-laws came to visit, they thought my father-in-law was Mr. Donut, right? Yeah, I mean, to your point, yeah, not a lot of – totally different than Tokyo.

I knew we were going to be in a little bit of a culture shock when one of the guys that played as a non-import, kind of like Bert, a guy from Minneapolis, Dan Dayakawa, he had played over there as a non-import for, I don't know, 10 or 12 years.

Now you're back doing hockey again.