Tarun Chitra

They see it as, uh, something where we need sort of an upgrade in technology, an upgrade in best practices, and as painful as each one of those are, uh, that's how I see it as well.

So, uh, Tarun Chitra from Gauntlet has spoken about how, uh, he sees Crypto kind of getting the early hits because it's, it's open and, and, uh, decentralized, but that TradFi is going to be hit much harder than, than, um, the crypto industry.

And I was wondering if just in any conversations you have connecting with institutions, are they looking at themselves at all, or are they, are they kind of trying to harden, harden their systems, uh, behind the scenes, or, or is it still kind of not, not, uh, given the attention it deserves?

Yeah.

Hello, everyone.

Next, you got Tarun, the giga brain and Grand Puba at Gauntlet.

Yo.

And joining us again, a Token 2049 tradition, we've got Arthur Hayes, the arbiter of Alpha at Maelstrom.

Yeah.

Okay.

Tarun, what's your take?

Um, yeah, it's like the Chinese ghost cities.