Mm-hmm.

People could pay to see the inside of your house? And so people look at it as sexual and they get triggered.

But I saw it as an opportunity to have more access to you, and that was the only plat- platform at that time that existed as a paywall to get more access.

So I helped creators set up, a lot of them without even doing nudity, but just to get more access.

'Cause I was like, okay, if a creator launches on a platform where people can pay to get access to them, there's 100% of their audience that is following them for them.

So how big of that percentage are actually gonna convert to get more of them? A lot more than would buy a hairbrush.

So that's when the light bulb went off and I was like, holy shit.

You're creating a lot of other types.