Tar-Meneldur

It's a little-known story, and I learned a lot from your discussion.

One detail caught my attention when you had the idea that the name Tar-Meneldur may be related to the mental tarma.

Turns out you're right.

I looked up the Quenya root word Meneldur.

Menel in my Quenya to English dictionary, and here's what I found.

Menel is a noun meaning heavens.

It's also found in the name Meneldil, meaning heaven friend or astronomer.

The name Meneldur means heaven servant.

He wants to determine what should be done.

But Meneldor isn't interested right now.

There are other matters which I judge more urgent.

Let a king first rule well his own house, ere he correct others, it is said.

To you I say now, go home.

Aldarion stood suddenly still, and his face was stern.

If you know, tell me, where is my home? Where your wife is, said Meneldur.

So he rides to Emery and Erendis meets him.

These are the names of the kings and queens of Numenor.

Elros Tar-Minyatur, Vardimir, Tar-Amandil, Tar-Elendil, Tar-Meneldur, Tar-Aldarian, Tar-Ancalime, the first ruling queen, Tar-Anarion, Tar-Surion, Tar-Tilperion, the second queen, Tar-Menastir, Tar-Kirgitan, Tar-Atanimir the Great, Tar-Ankaliman, Tar-Telemite, Tar-Vanamelde the Third Queen, Tar-Alkaran, Tar-Kalmakil, Tar-Ardamin.

After Ardamin, the kings took the scepter in the names of the Numenorean or Adunaic tongue.

Ar-Adunakor, Ar-Zimrathon, Ar-Sakalthor, Ar-Gimilzor, Ar-Inziladun, Enziladun repented of the ways of the kings and changed his name to Tar-Palantir, the Farsighted.

because remember we were saying like mental tarma is the pillar of heaven, right? Yes, yes, yes.

And then you've got Meneldur, the Tar-Meneldur, the king of Numenor, who's all about studying the stars, right? Studying the sky.

Right, the sky.

Yes.