And tell me, was it after the helicopter? Was it the noise of the helicopter that caused Chakotay to hurt himself?

Yes, about two years after his accident.

And I had moved him to another boarding facility.

And it wasn't because I was angry.

The other facility was wonderful.

It's just that the new facility was closer to my office.

And so it gave me less drive time.

Wow.

I'm really interested in where you guys started connecting beyond the human and pet communication and how that relates to your awakening.

It started pretty gradually, but the catalyst was Chakotay had this horrific accident.

We had been together a little over six years, I think, at this point, and he sustained a horrible injury in this absolutely horrific accident.

Basically, what happened is at the time, I was married to a man who was a city boy, so we didn't own land.

I would board him at a boarding facility.

This was a really nice place.

It was a large open pasture, and there were about 30 horses in it.

Wow.