Takuma Sato

Obviously, that started with the automotive industry.

Indy 500 had just been won by a Japanese driver, Takuma Sato.

I had a big celebratory event at the ambassador's residence.

And I asked my economic team to, figuratively speaking, take that car apart and figure out who built every part, every spring, the tire, the engine, whatever componentry might go into it.

Sato?

Not Takuma Sato.

Kobayashi? Maybe because the

points were different then.

Yeah.

And Takuma Sato finishing fourth in the BAR Honda.

And who was vice president of

Honda at that time?

And I say that because...

Of names that he's raced against and beaten in IndyCar, Juan Pablo Montoya, Jacques Villeneuve, Takuma Sato, Marcus Ericsson, Romain Grosjean, Fernando Alonso, all people that have won or podiumed in Formula One.

I feel like if he had been in a top five car on a Formula One grid between say 2005 and 2015, he probably would have made your list.

Yeah.