Sybrina Fulton

Well, my guest this episode, Marisa Renée Lee, has lived and written about grief from both sides of that experience.

She's the author of Grief is Love, which grew out of losing her mother and explores what it means to continue loving someone after they're gone.

Her newest book, Waiting for Dawn: Living with Uncertainty, came out of a very different kind of grief.

After developing long COVID, Marisa found herself living with a body she could no longer predict and a future she could no longer plan for in the same way.

... "Well, I am a therapist," they're like, "No, no, no."

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Like, "Who are you?" "Well, I'm a mother." "Nope." You know, it's not your roles.

It's not your work.

Until we can establish probable cause to dispute that, we don't have the grounds to arrest him.

What, I wondered, was the reason for Gillum to bring up Trayvon Martin so much? Doing some superficial internet research, I saw that Sabrina Fulton, Trayvon's mother, was a big supporter of Gillum.

He's got my vote.

And the truth is, you know what? I'm black.

I'm the one.

was there when he was sick.

Trayvon had been sent to Sanford by his mother, Sabrina Fulton, because he had been suspended from school for the third time in three months.

I was not looking forward to this, but I had to come and check it out.

So who's on the panel?

So the modern day lynching panel will include Sybrina Fulton, which is Trayvon Martin's mother.

Wow.

Mm.

And I have been able to grow outside of that.

Even like, you know, of course people may know me from working with Ross, but being able to work with people like Sabrina Fulton and the Trayvon Martin Foundation, that just kind of opened me up to more purpose, like purposeful work, like, And that just feels good.

Like being in a part of a movement and keeping a movement going and creative marketing to help with the peace walk and different things.

So it's like, I think the thing is sometimes people get comfortable where they feel like they grew up with you.