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[笑声] 对。

的那种处境。然后 [笑声] 我也有在想，在那个《早于霜降晚于春》里面，然后我就写了一种关系，就是这两个人他是从始至终不见面的，但是他们会互相提供一点支持。这两个人甚至如果放到真实的生活，如果你说放到我们目前的这种比较悲观的认知的话，这两个人他们是有很大的差值的。比如说里边叫空婉的这个人，他们女主人公是只知道空婉是叫空婉，她不知道她别的名字，就知道这么一个网名。然后空婉她是相信那座城市里正在发生某种变化，城市里的雨水是有意识的。我在里边写的就是，空婉正站在一个很高的地方，凝望雨水的集群从高空坠落，像千百道银针往一个个行色匆忙的目标人物身上定去。它们冷酷、成群，有意识，水里有某种深刻的变化正在发生。空婉是真正相信这一点的，她认为这一点存在，她也认为城市还有其他很多怪异的事情在发生。而作为主人公，女主人公的我对于这些她是处于抱一个不可知论的观点，就是我既不反对，虽然我自己绝对不认同，但是我不反对你的观点。也就是说你-- 这两个人在这方面极大的这种认知的不一致，但是他们仍然可以建立一种关系，然后有淡淡的特别有边界感地互相关心。呃，后来女主人公来到了空婉所在的城市，她们甚至彼此都没有提出要见一面。后来女主人公又离开了这个城市，她从这个城市的怪异中逃脱以后，仍然从女主人公的角度，并不会去说明这个城市的怪异到底是真还是假。她离开了这个城市以后，她仍然没有和空婉去见最后一面。我就想设置在这篇文章中，他们的关系在这种情况下是仍然可以成立的，仍然彼此的关系没有断开。所以我想，这是我在小说中想要去探讨的一种关系的可能。然后到《丁伯娘》这篇里边，男女主人公他们的关系就会更激烈一点，他们其实涉及一个到底谁是真正的杀人凶手这个问题。而从女主人公的言语来看，她是在把杀人凶手的这个锅去推给这个男主人公丁道一。但是在她的叙述中也仍然可以看出，她对男主人公是有一种亲密关系的。我认为在这个小说里，这种亲密关系不能简单地定义为我们，呃，一般概念中的爱情，不是那种恋爱关系，但是会有一种接近爱意的存在，这个爱意也是真诚的。但是女主人公又和丁道一之间也会有他们特别特别毒辣的部分，特别特别甚至反人性的部分，这也是一种关系。然后我在这个小说里也是探讨了他们的这种关系是如何建立的。他们的关系是在某种不可能的情况下建立起来，又在某种不可能的外围环境下一直持续着，甚至于到了一种可能你死我活的情况下，这个关系仍然存在。所以我觉得既然人类对于亲密关系的这种渴求是永恒都存在的，所以我觉得在小说里讨论不同的人、不同的情境下的亲密关系，它仍然是有价值的，也是我觉得是有意思的。 嗯，是的是的。那我们刚刚其实聊到亲密关系，包括关系的很多种形态嘛。那接下来我其实想跟你探讨一下你最后这一篇小说叫《后记流》嘛，其实它是一个 [笑声] 一开始看你会觉得说哦，它像一个后记，就是是作者本人跳出来在讲一些真实发生在她身上的事情，包括她小的时候怎么在苏州这个地方长大呀，和父母的关系啊，包括这个书还出现了你的编辑罗丹尼。

嗯。

丹尼姐。

What kind of lost us?

Well, realistic, I would like to go to Suzhou and Hangzhou maybe next.

There's a saying in Chinese, like, and it means like above there's heaven and below we have Suzhou and Hangzhou because like the landscapes are really pretty.

So I would like to go there sometime soon.

But, Pipe Dream is somewhere in Latin America because I haven't been.

The Ming government encouraged private merchants to operate in the border regions while keeping tighter control on official tribute missions.

Cities like Suzhou and Xi'an served as collection points for silk and porcelain destined for western markets, but the emphasis shifted towards southern coastal ports where maritime trade with Southeast Asia and beyond grew rapidly.

This gradual pivot reflected practical calculations.

Sea voyages could carry larger cargoes with fewer risks from nomadic raids and new ship designs allowed for regular schedules tied to monsoon winds.

His number two, Wang Jingwei, was very much of that opinion.

And it's really after the great battles of Shanghai, when hundreds of thousands of soldiers fight each other, of Suzhou and the massacres of Nanjing and other places, and then the Great Battle of Wuhan in the summer and fall of 1938, that really, the Rubicon has been crossed.

After that, some kind of settlement about North China with Japan becomes impossible for China.

And it's at that point that Wang Jingwei, the number two, begins his famous peace movement.

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啊，长途电话费很贵的，你是去美国，又不是去苏州。

谁让你打长途电话？你用微信呀。

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谁让你打长途电话？你用微信呀。

hello and welcome to the context my name is scott pruitt and i'm an anchor with news china with our podcast we aim to provide insight into the current trends of modern china allowing you to clearly see what's happening today through a historical lens Today we'll talk about Prosperous Suzhou, an extraordinary 18th century Chinese painting that captures the bustling streets, busy waterways, and everyday lives of one of China's great commercial cities, while revealing a remarkable story of imperial ambition, cultural heritage, and a long journey home.

In early October, Suzhou hosted the 15th Suzhou Cultural and Creative Design Industry Expo, where a national treasure from the Liaoning Provincial Museum in Shenyang made an unusual appearance.

The original prosperous Suzhou was not there, but a collection of creative products inspired by the painting brought its vibrant world to life.

A giant reproduction of the hand scroll transformed an entire wall into a panorama of bustling Qing Dynasty streets, while an array of souvenirs, home accessories, and trendy collectibles drew visitors in.

The biggest hit was a series of iridescent refrigerator magnets inspired by Mother of Pearl inlay.

Designs such as Golden Light over Suzhou and Night Mooring in Suzhou proved so popular that they had to be restocked several times, with young visitors lining up to take photos.

More than 100 products jointly developed by the Liaoning Provincial Museum and Suzhou Museum were on display.

Though the painting remains in Shenyang, its images and creative offshoots had once again made their way back to their place of origin.