Susan Rigetti

And Travis Kalanick probably hadn't thought about that, but I bet he thought about it afterwards.

These came just days after former Uber engineer Susan Fowler had published a blog post in which she accused Uber of fostering a misogynistic corporate culture.

It achieved a huge amount

of publicity and stimulated a very important debate.

And I mean, I put the other stuff to the side too, not that it's okay or whatever, but I agree with you and all of that.

And I'm not dismissing what Susan Fowler wrote either.

Yeah, not at all.

You know, her story is her story, but that's not the story of Uber the business.

Travis himself has never been accused of being, you know, sexist or predatory, but the company he built certainly has been accused at.

This woman named Susan Fowler, who wrote a memo, a female engineer of her time at Uber, and talked about a boss who basically had said, like, "Well, you better sleep with me or I'm gonna make your life miserable." And she went to complain, and they're like, "Well, we can move you somewhere else, or, but this guy's a high performer." So stuff like that, and that was sort of right as Me Too was cresting.

And that woman, Susan Fowler, was on the cover of a magazine I think on Time-

Mm-hmm

... along with five other women, including Taylor Swift-

And so Kalanick declined to speak to you.

Andreessen declined to speak to you.

Susan Fowler, who you also mentioned earlier, the former Uber employee who blew the whistle on what was going on inside the company, declined to speak to you.