Susan Ivanova

Right.

I said that with Ivanova gone and Sheridan now the president, that like you, I knew they were going to get a new captain, but I named the captain.

You did.

Because, you see, I was paying attention.

He says this.

It's easy to mistake the actor for the character in situations like this.

It's a vastly different character from Ivanova, not meant to fit in the same place and do the same things, or even be the same person.

They're both strong characters, but they're different in their approach.

All right, so we have what you think is going to be the name of the show.

In the opening scene, Ivanova's looking for Captain Sheridan and Garibaldi's like, well, he's, you know, everything's been going on.

So he wanted to get some perspective and he's taking a walk.

She's like, where? He's like, um, outside.

Yeah, again, Garibaldi's role there seemed to be about asking the questions needed to explain the concept in detail to the audience, more so than the kinds of questions Garibaldi would actually have.

We saw Garibaldi start to push when he saw Franklin had a problem.

So I appreciate that it was Garibaldi who checked in with him and that, you know, he was there because Ivanova said, Franklin hasn't gone in or out of his quarters for three or four days and he's not in them now.

So, you know, Garibaldi goes to check on his friend that he's been concerned about for a while.

Terry, you know, Terry Farrell, we see it happen.

Did you actually, uh, uh, Susan Ivanova? Yep.

She might've, you know, Mark Skoll.

Uh, did you ever actually think she might truly die? And did you ever think she actually was truly dead? Like this is Amanda tapping swan song for the show.

But it was Claudia that led me around.

If you notice all the scenes early on, I realized that I knew Ivanova.

You

had a pre-existing relationship with her, and

So, yeah, he'd have to go back, right? Also,

we'd have to clean up the whole Marcus Ivanova stuff.

There is that.

There is that.

That whole scene just left me with a no. Bester

could be this show's Gold Dukat.

Can we talk about Ivanova for a minute? I don't want to, but yeah.

Okay.

And I also thought that we would get, uh, I, I'd stole a phrase from you and I thought we were going to get the redemption of Dr. Franklin.

Oh, he was going to rush back to Babylon five, hook himself up to the quality of mercy machine and save Ivanova.

whoa dude you were so close on that one

i did

So in order for this war to actually have teeth, somebody on the DVD cover has to die.

God,

and it's got to be between Marcus and Ivanova? And it could be either one at this point.

God, can it be Franklin?

Garibaldi is training a new batch of troops for the peace conference.

Ivanova is struggling with an incompetent new person, Larkin, on traffic control.

Sheridan has to maintain station neutrality under pressure from London G'Kar.

Natoth encounters members of the Tlin race, a people who are being oppressed by the Narn, though the Narn don't want to make that public at the moment.

You know, there's, there's a lot of things that people say whenever they want to be insulting, and there are a lot of words that people choose.

And I think here in 2024/2026 when this is coming out, I think a lot of the more humanely thinking people have tried to just stop using a lot of those words.

Larkin is very fond of internally monologuing slurs against Ivanova, and it was to the point of feeling uncomfortable.

[laughs] And I don't know if Sterling was just trying to make a point about the character or what, but Larkin is a nasty piece of work from the beginning.