And for you, did that really start with your near-death experience at four?

Do you like to say more about that experience? Yeah, I don't know if it started there, to be honest, because I also fear, you know, like just as a child when things would happen and I'd think, that's going to happen.

You know, I had those fears too because we don't like pain.

You know, it's our natural response to pain is no.

You know, that's our natural response.

So I don't know if...

I don't know how it changed me.

What other things do you see in your hospice work or in your work as a medium? What other kinds of mysterious happenings are you aware of?

But in a nutshell, can you just share for our listeners what happened to you and how you chose to walk forward?

Okay, so I was playing Fort with some boys and I wanted to keep playing and they basically were just playing and they said, if you want to play Fort, you got to get up in the freezer in the garage and get popsicles.

We weren't allowed in the garage, but they were strong enough to open up the garage door and we had a freezer that wasn't plugged in.

And I climbed up in the freezer because, of course, I'm younger and little and I want to play so bad.

And I was almost five.

And I remember calling out, you know, flavors.

What do you want? You want orange? You want cream? You want, you know, what do you want? And I heard myself saying, I'm going to get a creamsicle because that's what my mom always bought was creamsicles.

Do you have a memory of the very first person that you helped in that regard?

Yeah.

And it tells you, oh, I can't trust me.

But I can trust everyone out here because they can tell me what I'm experiencing with this person.

So you get an immediate hit on someone and you're going to talk yourself out of it.

Yes.

And it's learning not to do that.

It's learning to go, I'm going to step back.

Where do you put that?

You know, life or death,

you have to have an operation.

Why are her ashes like so important? What did you do with her ashes? They're on Mino.

That's why.

All right, she's recognizing that.

She's telling me to tell you she knows.

Did you put them in a tattoo, honey? Or are they on you physically like on, thank you.

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