Susan Banducci

But we also know the term has, um, a, a, a, a darker connotation, which is about aggression, recklessness, insensitivity, controlling behavior.

I w- I want to bring in this episode's guest, uh, social scientist now, uh, Susan Banducci, professor of political science at the University of Birmingham, who's been researching how current gender norms and stereotypes affect UK politics and political leadership.

I know, I know you also work with Curtis on the, on the NatCen studies, Susan, so welcome to Attitudes, first of all.

Thank you very much.