Surinamese people

[laughs] Is that Costa Rica?

No. Surinam? Surinamese.

Oh, so he's...

Well, he's, um...

Yeah.

She's half Dutch, half Surinamese.

She says she's a little spiritual.

She's a crystal girly, Andy.

I know.

But yeah, I remember when we did speak about, like, Netherlands, you said, um, oh, try Surinamese food.

I, I found a place-

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Emma receives a suitcase from her father-in-law filled with stories about a colonial past.

Whereas Emma herself, coming from Surinamese heritage, discovers the family history of how her family was oppressed during the same period.

The film is a discovery of how these two opposing histories come together in the life that she is creating.

We're gonna be talking with Emma about how she herself dabbles within the media of theater and documentary filmmaking, and why she finds it important to use both of these platforms.

Yeah, I thought it was sensitive.

My, uh, father-in-law said, "Why is it sensitive? No way." It's, it's the grandfather.

And I have Surinamese roots as well.

Um, so I dove into that times and I combined my Surinamese roots through my mom, and I tell a story for my children because they have both inside.

Maybe Moose will check it out and give us a recap tomorrow.

I can't get enough Surinamese soccer.

Oh, buddy, listen, it's the best.

It really is.

It's not as drastic in that way.

There are many African or Surinamese or Kurosawian descendant players.

So yeah, it'd be really interesting to talk to someone like Van Dyck.

and see like how do you situate yourself being the captain of the national team and how do you see yourself bringing different people together or do you just kind of let people rock as they do um and maybe there is cultural maybe people from you know amsterdam hang out with each other or people from what's it Rotterdam hang out with each other but

And so they, since then, the Dutch team has always had rules about we decide who rooms together and we make the, we decide who sits where at which table so that we never have these racial divides again.

And also they have Surinamese food regularly served in team meals, which was one of the players' demands.

Suriname being the small Dutch former colony in the Caribbean where most of these guys, including Rijkaard, have their origins.

So yeah, he becomes manager partly because of who he is more than his knowledge of football.