Sudhir Venkatesh

And it's an amazing story.

And the other book I have lectured on, and actually I used to show the documentary to the students, was, uh, Sudhir Venkatesh's Dislocation, which is about the Robert Taylor Homes in Chicago.

And the reason I, I bring this up is because it's the same theme that you find in rural America, that despite sometimes socioeconomic conditions that you would want to leave, that the social capital is so strong and these communities are so strong that people stay anyway.

Now, I don't think that's the case, obviously, in a prosperous town in Iowa or Pennsylvania.