Stuart Broad

Did you say that? Just sorry to cut you off.

Stuart Broad.

I think it's Stuart Broad.

I know Ben Stokes is on it.

They've started a podcast called Line and Length.

If you don't think he's going to be ready for South Africa, then you do what you did with Jimmy Anderson.

You did what you did probably with Stuart Broad, was waiting on it.

Chris Wilkes, you tap him on the shoulder and say, look, Adil, it's time to retire.

And then you take that argument out of the equation.

And I played for four years.

And then eventually Stuart Broad's school, I should have said as well.

Actually, he's like Brodie, decent cricketers, came out of Oakham.

Was it? Oh, he was.

Probably is.

I think Stuart Broad's coming out.

That's true.

He's part of the Triple M family.

I'd imagine there are other counties firing messages off already to see if he's interested in playing one year for them, but certainly for James Anderson to not be able to have the farewell that he probably deserves as a Lancashire player is disappointing for everyone.

Agus, I know you spoke to Jimmy at the unveiling of his joint portrait with Stuart Broad not too long ago.

Let's hear a little bit of that chat.

At the minute, I feel like I can still play.

And we've just got to wait until everything's out in the open and we really know what has happened before we can really comment on that.

Other than to say it's just really sad that he's going to disappear from the game, apparently without the farewell that I think everyone would agree that he deserves.

but should any athlete Stephen have the option to choose their retirement I mean that feels like an immense luxury obviously Stuart Broad had the most magnificent farewell for for England when he hit six from his final ball and took a wicket with his final ball delivered so you know sometimes it's beautiful and perfect like that other times it isn't but should any athlete have that choice

Well, no, they shouldn't.

He wasn't doing anything not right or he wasn't doing anything wrong.

But just to your earlier point of why today felt kind of worse than some of those collapses you mentioned, the Stuart Broad one famously, or even the couple on turning pitches in the subcontinent, is because if you've been following this Australian team closely, like we have for the last... few years, for the last many years, but especially in the last 18 months or so, the faith that they put in some of these batters and the fact that the top order has consistently failed so often.

There have been times when they haven't, yes, but the times they've been 4 for not too much, 4 for 90, 4 for 80.

I mean, we said it in Durban, they were 4 for 94 in Darwin.