Stop motion

kind of like fantasy adventure yeah it's

like it is a bit of a fan it's a fantasy it doesn't look like stop motion i did see clips of it online and it just kind of looks like 3d like cgi

kind of like oh toy story something like that oh

something like yeah like like but it's also i'm pretty sure patient is a bit lazy in it and she was in this show called andy mack that i would have watched growing up

um in like like during covid i'm pretty sure it was pretty popular but the thing is their company was gonna like implode because nobody was really watching their stuff and they didn't just they did ruby as well which is another animated series i never watched it i just know it's there okay but they had like really good like shows not only were they weren't like just animated like sometimes there would be like real life shows as well oh

like yeah

yeah live action um they did like a bunch of like uh documentaries i know they were doing one about um like this there was this indian head masseuse called uh baba i'm pretty sure his name was baba sen and he was like he like he i think that's what they were doing at the at that time that their company was kind of like imploding um but then camp camp which is like a it's a 2d stop motion kind of show it's kind of It looks like a kid's show, but it's an adult animated series.

And it's kind of conversing with what it looks like.

And then they're fired in a kiln.

And then we animated them using stop motion, and again with Dragon, my friend, and to make the film.

And it was my first, I have a long experience with doing animation on paper, but stop motion was kind of new to me, so it

was fun.

It was very

spontaneous.

So it's kind of a schizophrenic process.

The tile work was really long and the stop motion was like...

Love that film.

Love Stop, Stop, Stop Animation.

Love Laika, like I said earlier in the podcast.

Love that movie.

你这一直看，你为什么不去创作？[笑] 之类的，就是你自己去做嘛，对不对？就是-

-但我觉得如果没有真的很参与，他们要去转化那个，我不确定到底要不要用参与这个字耶。但就是我觉得如果没有那么好的引导他们，他们其实也不会真的受到那个太多的影响，去干嘛干嘛。我觉得这有点可惜，因为我自己回忆我小时候的话，我觉得就是因为我们那时候太少有这种。 没有这么多选择。 没有那么多选择，所以我很印象深刻的是我爸那时候，那时候 YouTube 才刚开始吧，所以他传了一个 stop motion 的影片给我看，然后我看到就惊为天人。我就想太酷了，怎么做出来的，所以我就真的动手去做，所以才开启了我的动画，就是。 哦，这样子啊。 对，有一点点类似，算是一个启蒙。可是我觉得他们现在太没有启蒙这个感觉了，因为太多了。所以你看他看完那个东西，他只会想看第二集，他想看第三，他不会想说，欸，那我也要试试看。我觉得这有点可惜啊，可是我们自己的参与就也很少的时候，你也没有办法真的。

真的，因为他们看的时候就是我放空。

Yeah yeah，然后你还要跟他说，欸，那我们一起做。

I know they've made at least two or three shorts in these.

This one's a pretty short one, Stop Motion.

You got Tobias Forge, who is the main force behind the band Ghost.

If you know the band Ghost, he's also usually plays the, he's the lead singer character that always changes in Ghost.

It didn't go all the way in, but it was pretty darn good.

And then what is the other one that I liked quite a bit? Those, those were the two, honestly, those were the two best ones there.

The one with flying Lotus, the stop motion one was pretty cool, but it was really short.

I mean, it might've been maybe three minutes long.

Um, funny as fuck, and cool.

And, um, they're kind of roughly my age, and so w- we were ki- I, you know, just being around them, I just s- s- started jogging and reminiscing about kind of earlier times in Stop Mo, you know, in Los Angeles.

Um, early 2000s, I was thinking about sort of second season Robot Chicken, maybe first season, second season, right around there.

And, uh, um, you know, living in Hollywood, working in Hollywood.

It looked like there was some sort of a, a different live action wrap party.

I remember si- sitting next to Melissa Joan Hart, I think her name was, like Sabrina or one of those witches on TV.

Um, and I remember just thinking like, "Wow, this is cool." I'm, you know, elbow to e- you know, stop motion animator.

Jesus, when do, when do you, you know, order a cocktail next to somebody like that? Never.

Yeah, I got interrupted in my plan.

[laughs] Because I stopped in the Bay Area, and then my friend Webster Colcord that I went to high school with was a- Great name ... stop motion animator.

An amazing name.

Yeah, he's awesome, too.

Portland, Oregon.

Yeah.

Uh, Claymation, doing stop motion animation.

And he came to visit me in San Francisco, and he took me to a studio that did stop motion in San Francisco called Colossal Pictures.

So, you know, early on, it would be the stick figure, poorly drawn stick figure comics.

And then I did, uh, stop motion animation with like Lego.

And then, and then I dabbled in film school and, and, um, and it always just kind of came back to writing as the core thing under everything.

Cause you kind of need that to tell a story.

You got to love it.

You got to have a passion for it.

And I think what you were saying about stop motion animation and you compare that to AI, I mean, AI has no soul.

It has no emotion.