Steven Caldwell

I learned so much in that game from him, just how he played, and he's like, "No, be there, be here." And you just, things like that you learn.

But then that whole squad was brilliant for me, like Graham Alexander, Stevie Caldwell, Clarke Carlisle, Wade Elliott.

All experienced players, weren't they?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like him, Steven Caldwell is, is still in the countryside outside of Dundee, Scotland.

[laughs] Like you would-

[laughs]